This family tree has the name Van Dorssen, is still of a decent size and is described on the site of Piet van Dorssen on Geneanet. The tribe goes back with certainty to a marriage in 1750 in Jutphaas and had already at that moment the name Van Dorssen. Because of that, the connection is made with an old Van Dorssen tribe in Vreeland (this strain is therefore also described here), but there is no concrete evidence for that. The theory about the connection isn’t right, but the relationship between the tribes may be true. However, there is also a reasonable chance that this comes from Utrecht (there was a well-known old Utrecht family Van Dorssen or Dorschen). But the name can also be derived from Van Dorsten (as it is for Amersfoort). Therefore see also the description at Utrecht and at Background the Origin name.
The development of this family tree is worked out in detail on Geneanet, it elaborates the best the current part after 1750 and is also maintained there. Here an overview is shown and there is more focus on the origin before 1750.
This family tree has a lot of active branches which are not detailed here. There has been made a graphic overview. Furthermore, the details can be found back on Geneanet.
With regards to the current family tree from Jutphaas (now Nieuwegein) is the ancestor Cornelis van Dorssen who marries on 26 January 1750 (banns 7 January) with Alida van Ingen. It concerns a young man and young lady who both already live in Jutphaas. He died on september 29, 1808 and the death certificate states that he was about 84 years. That would mean he was born around 1724. She was born on 7 may 1717 in Jutphaas with as parents Gerrit van Ingen and Gijsbertje Spins. They are both reformed.
There are also the following starting points and observations:
- The first son is called Gerrit and was in that time often named at the father of the woman. The next son was named Hendrik. Chances are high that this is the name of the father of Cornelis (or that would also be Gerrit, but then was regularly appointed a second son with the same name or a combination name).
- He is from 1757 to 1782 called a number of times in deeds, usually as churchwarden or debtor.
- Alida was 32 when she married. It’s a little bit strange that she wasn’t married before (at least not found).
- In Jutphaas, there are no logical new born children named Cornelis in the period 1720-1729. Also not further in the province of Utrecht, there should almost be for sure the source. Maybe Cornelis was not the baptismal name.
- In all further found births in Netherlands (related to this genealogy) of the period 1720-1729 is only one Cornelis found: a Catholic son in Breda. Very unlikely that this would be him.
- Van Dorssen in Amersfoort is derived from Dorsten; in Utrecht also three quarters of all registered names up to 1750 with a name variance of Van Dorsten covers the name Van Dorsten (the rest mostly Van Dorssen). How likely is it that also Cornelis is a Van Dorsten?
- See Further Analysis for the analysis of the Vreeland family tree.
- According to the Comments on Geneanet at Cornelis is the lineage of Vreeland (via Willem). This can’t be true:
- In the testament of Abraham van Dorssen in 1725 are Hugo and Jacob the only living children of mother widow Aertje, no Willem.
- In the testament of father Jacob van Dorssen in 1732 is (son) Jacob the only living heir.
- If Cornelis was born in 1724, Willem would only have been 17 and it would be 5 years before his marriage.
- The second son of son Hendricus and Maria was called Willem, but named after the father of Mary.
- This Willem is named Van Dorste at the wedding.
- Based on his age and origin this Willem is the son of Jockef van Dorsten and Rebecca Abrams, see Utrecht.
- Willem has probably sailed from 1749 to 1759 with the Dutch East India Company.
- Anthonia Dom was also named Anthonia van Schaijk, has ultimately married with Willem in 1760 (she was Catholic, he reformed) and had a total of 8 illegitimate children. There was, however, no Cornelis.
- A Jan (Johannes) van Dorsten is married to the sister Pieternel van Leersum of Steijntje van Leersum married with Willem. That makes the chances high that Johannis is family from Willem. For that Jan a small branch has been described, but there still lacks the relationship with Willem.
- How likely is it that someone from Vreeland comes to Jutphaas. Chances are much higher on someone from Utrecht.
For what concerns the whole family tree of ancestor Cornelis is not much to analyse anymore. This is almost completely worked out by Piet van Dorssen. With regards to the possible previous family tree of Vreeland are the necessary caveats and comments to make:
- The oldest ancestor that is reflected is Tieleman van Dorssen which was born late 16th century and married to Ghijsken. His children lived already in Vreeland and the tree continued via son Jan Tielemans.
- For this ancestor it was also linked to Tyman and Willem in Utrecht around 1400, but that’s based on the last name (in that time phonetically noted) and this is not evidence based. See also the description at Utrecht.
- It is also the question what is the evidence for the parents of Tieleman: Peter with brother Claes.
- There are several marriages (men) with no children, check once more (Peter ~1620, Jacob 1702, Barent 1660, Willem 1641). This is striking and the question whether those have descendants elsewhere or under another name.
- A number of sons left to Dutch Indies (Adriaen 1698, Jacob 1735, Abraham 1740) and lived there for a while. Abraham supposedly had a grocery store at Banda on Batavia in 1776 (newspaper). Perhaps there is offspring.
- Interesting is a Abraham van Dorsten which in 1669 in Amsterdam marries with as witness brother Tijmen. They come both from Utrecht with as father Johannes or Hans. He has a small branch with some offspring. He is born in 1645 in Utrecht. Given the names this closed perfectly with Vreeland, where at the same time also are an Abraham and Tieleman. They can’t be the same, might be cousins? However, they use almost always Dorsten, where the ones from Vreeland almost always used Dorssen.
There are a number of interesting facts about the references in the archives:
- At the end of the 17th century from 1666 onwards many references of the Vreeland family tree, particularly about Abraham at Nieuwersluis on property transfers.
- Then some credentials of his son Jacob (Bailiff of Loenen), also mainly over property, by the end of the 17th century and early 18th century.
- After that a lot of references about the son Jacob (from Jacob) who is canonick/Canon of the Dom in Utrecht and occurs as party in various matters. These are in the period 1726 until 1758.
- In addition still several loose references for different members of the Vreeland family: around 1670 a couple of Tieleman and Willem (property, penalty), early 18th century some reports of Barent Barentse, Johannes/Jan, Wijanda/Weyntje and Johanna (property/ witnesses) and in general, mid 18th century some report of Jan, Weijntje, Johanna and Anthonia (property, penalty, witness).
- Most interesting references are a testament of Willem Janssen (1668), Tieleman (1697), Abraham (1701), Jan (1723) and Jacob (1725), prenuptial agreements by Johanna with Albertus Heshusius (1732), legacy Annetje (1732), testament Jan (1732), Testament family Liesvelt by Abraham (1739), Division of property on the minor children of Jan (1758), testament Geertruij Jas (1767), Jan (1774, 1776), testament widow Jacob (1782) and Albertus Heshusius (1789).
- Interesting are also the VOC reports of Adriaen in 1716 (T1725, +1728), Jacob in 1748 (+1781) and Abraham in 1753 (+1786), all of which lived there for some time. See also further analysis.
- From 1757 the first reports of the Jutphaas family tree on Cornelis and end of the 18th century by the sons Gerrit (carpenter) and Hendrik.
- In 1751 marries a Anthonia van Dorssen with Pieter van Nieuwenhuizen in Utrecht. Would that be Anthonia (1733)? She calls herself thereafter as mother incidentally Van Rossum and lived already in Utrecht. This could also be related to the two sisters Van Leersum (see Utrecht, Do You Know) where a cousin was named Van Rossum!
Do You Know
- Willem (1641, Vreeland) has a family coat of arms on his tomb (see also Heraldry).
- See further the site on Geneanet.
Pedigree Male Line
- The full direct paternal line (name carriers) of those who have become adult.
- The overview is up to the birth years of about a century ago.
- If there are dashes under the lower cubes, it means that there are still descendants living.
- Overview of Vreeland and Jutphaas from Excel until about 1800, see further Geneanet for more details.